KN-3610 simultaneus untaged and taged VDSL VLAN possible?

[moij258]

Is possible to setup on KN-3610 (or KN-3611) on VDLS PTM connection simultaneously untagged VLAN and tagged VLAN with ID, 2 VLAN together.

I need to replace ISP router what have this kind of complicated setup in ISP specific router.

Where is possible to buy KN-3611 in Europe/EU?

[keen_parish27]

Hi,

It depends. Currently, it's not possible to have two different ISPs on the same port. If you need different services on different VLANs, refer to the attached screenshot for instructions.

[moij258]

I have one ISP, but ISP have 2 VLAN-s on VDLS.

1. untagged (native) VALN, without ID for general internet connection.

2. VLAN with ID for IPTV.

Is it possible to send them to different physical LAN ports?

[eralde]

15 hours ago, moij258 said:

I have one ISP, but ISP have 2 VLAN-s on VDLS.

1. untagged (native) VALN, without ID for general internet connection.

2. VLAN with ID for IPTV.

Is it possible to send them to different physical LAN ports?

@moij258 if I understand you correctly, your goal is to configure something like this (in my example I configure the IPTV VLAN on the port #4):

Spoiler

 

 

[moij258]

This mean if VLAN ID is not defined router handles it as untagged (native) VALN?

Other routers I have seen, did not expect empty VLAN ID at all or have some special check box for untagged (native) VLAN.

Edited February 2 by moij258

[eralde]

2 hours ago, moij258 said:

This mean if VLAN ID is not defined router handles it as untagged (native) VALN?

Other routers I have seen, did not expect empty VLAN ID at all or have some special check box for untagged (native) VLAN.

Yes, this configuration (no VLAN for the Internet, only for IPTV) should work as you expect.

I hope that helps 🙂

[moij258]

No, on my ISP both connections are VLAN connection: 1. is native untagged VLAN (special VLAN on an 802.1Q trunk link that carries traffic without VLAN tags), 2. is VLAN with specific ID number/tag.

Is this configuration possible on KN-3610?

[eralde]

18 hours ago, moij258 said:

No, on my ISP both connections are VLAN connection: 1. is native untagged VLAN (special VLAN on an 802.1Q trunk link that carries traffic without VLAN tags), 2. is VLAN with specific ID number/tag.

Is this configuration possible on KN-3610?

You can configure a configuration that you describe via the command line. It won't be possible to do it in the web UI.

Spoiler

telnet 192.168.1.1
Trying 192.168.1.1...
Connected to 192.168.1.1.
Escape character is '^]'.
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WARNING: administrative password is not configured.
(config)> in

        interface - network interface configuration

(config)> interface Dsl0

 Usage template:
        interface {name}

   Choose:
            Dsl0
       Dsl0/Pvc0

(config)> interface Dsl0

 Usage template:
        interface {name}

   Choose:
            Dsl0
       Dsl0/Pvc0

(config)> interface Dsl0/Vlan0
Network::Interface::Repository: "Dsl0/Vlan0" interface created.
(config-if)> ip address dhcp
Dhcp::Client: Started DHCP client on Dsl0/Vlan0.
(config-if)> ip global auto
Network::Interface::L3Base: Global priority recalculated.
(config-if)> up
Network::Interface::Base: "Dsl0/Vlan0": interface is up.
(config-if)> exit
Core::Configurator: Done.
(config)> interface Dsl0/Vlan123
Network::Interface::Repository: "Dsl0/Vlan123" interface created.
(config-if)> ip address dhcp
Dhcp::Client: Started DHCP client on Dsl0/Vlan123.
(config-if)> ip global auto
Network::Interface::L3Base: Global priority recalculated.
(config-if)> up
Network::Interface::Base: "Dsl0/Vlan0": interface is up.
(config-if)> exit
Core::Configurator: Done.
(config)> sy

           system - maintenance functions

(config)> system con

    configuration - manage system configuration

(config)> system configuration save
Core::System::StartupConfig: Saving (cli).

 

The resulting configuration file (startup-config) will contain something like this:

...

interface Dsl0
    rename DSL
    ip dhcp client dns-routes
    ip name-servers
    ...
    up
!

...

interface Dsl0/Vlan0
    security-level public
    ip address dhcp
    ip dhcp client dns-routes
    ip global 306
    up
!

interface Dsl0/Vlan123
    security-level public
    ip address dhcp
    ip dhcp client dns-routes
    ip global 153
    up
!
...

 

However, I don't have enough expertise to answer any following questions about the setup you want. I kindly suggest that you contact our technical support: https://support.keenetic.com/

Our support engineers will be able to answer your questions better than I am.

[moij258]

I get conformation from support that simultaneous untagged (native) VALN without ID and VLAN with ID are possible on VDSL PTM IPoE connection. I also ordered KN-3610 and have soon possibility to check this in live.

[moij258]

Strange is that manual on web have no any information about  untagged (native) VLAN, but it works when VLAN ID is left empty. Probably this "function" is good also to add to the manual.

Edited Wednesday at 04:33 PM by moij258